Otium cum dignitate.
Actually her book sounds interesting; I thought her message sounded interesting. Didn't think the presenter that pretty though.
I have never read her stuff, Pip. The Beauty Myth was a big seller, but by the time it came out I had stopped reading books that made me furious (mostly :-)) She seems smart and gorgeous.Colbert I discovered when he made his famous address to the Press Association at the White House, with Bush there. Hilarious.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869183917758574879The White House Correspondents Dinner
lilith...that was interesting...i was very surprised she mentioned the tazer incident and that turned me off...i see how we let people get so out of control that they go an extra step and quite frankly would have shot the little shit in the leg if it had been me...at the moment it feels like this country is out of control and the people are just doing whatever they see fit because they can get away with it with the proper attorney...that disturbs me...i really don't care if the government monitors me...i know it happens and when my husband was in the air force they monitored everything coming and going from the house full stop...that didn't bother me...why...BECAUSE I AM NOT A TERRORIST...i am tired of being scared in my own country and am willing to do with the monitoring to have some of that security back...hell the government is taking away so many other rights it isn't even funny...do i need to mention the smoking laws and how there aren't any places in my state now that you can smoke inside...whether or not you smoke, the business owners should have the option...there was the option prior to the law for non smoking places of business...if you don't want to be around smoke, don't go...the seat belt laws...who is that really protecting? or is it just another way to control the populace...but no one mentions these controlling tactics...why? sorry about the rant...just got the hair on my neck raised...
I don't know what Tazer incident she was talking about Daisy, but the other day I read about a man on a bus getting tazered because he was slipping into a diabetic coma and couldnt "get up" out of his bus seat. I don't trust those doing the tazering and the surveillance. Another guy got tazered 9 times all whilst he was lying face down on the ground. He had been driving home late. I particularly object to Contact Point. This is a database of every child (not celebrities or politicians children however) in the country. There will be all sorts of private and irrelevant and erroneous data on there, like a shopping list for a paedophile.."ah this one looks good, his dad left, he truants, his mum drinks.." and 300,000 "public servants" will have access to this information.Contact Point is all systems go this September with schools etc required to compile information on each child. We know which children are vulnerable. We don't need a database making them ALL so vulnerable.
lilith...the tazer incident was the one with the college student who got out of control and wouldn't remove himself...was aggressive with everyone around him...and yes i would have shot the little prick...he was so full of himself and was going to do whatever he wanted...i do agree with the contact point...how easy do we have to make it for people to take advantage of our youth? it's bad enough that they don't prosecute half of the offenses...and burns my butt when the offenders use that to say they are not guilty...NO that is not the reason they aren't prosecuted...the reason is because 3 year olds don't make good witnesses on the stand in court...how sick is that? i get so thoroughly irritated with the current system...really i do
Oh good grief Lil, Contact Point sounds the most incredibly stupid idea. I wonder who dreamed that one up!
Contact Point would be enough to make me go off grid.. if I had children. Scary stuff. The Colbert show is great! Really enjoyed this clip.. and I may check out her book - thanks.
Hell, I’ve been saying since the Reagan years that the USA has already gone fascist.Most of the feminists with whom I’m acquainted are very beautiful!
What are the other seven points though?Sounds familiar so far doesn't it?Bet dumbing down is there with hideous people like Margaret Hodge bumbling around being truly annoying and wasting everyone's time.
I wondered where Germaine Greer had gone until I saw her on the Loreal adverts for Yummy mummies. Oh, wait, no, she was advertising the new Egyptian exhibition at the British Museum. My mistake
Ten steps for would be dictators. She says that number one is "invoking a terrifying external and internal threat"I recently wrote:"When a lumpen mob gain power, chaos is inevitable, for their doctrines are organised around the guillotine".This is a distillation of the concept of perpetual state of war and agitation. Declare war and you organise around a war. It is the ony time that society functions as a homogenous, credulous, whole. In war, you can introduce strictures on society that would be unthinkable in peace time., such as detention without trial. It is, for want of a better phrase, "organised around a guillotine". It is focussed and fanatical. It allows the suspension of objectivity. Points 2 and 3 and 4 Mea Culpa. Like all despots I have a secret dungeon and maintain a para-military force who wear orange overalls, travel about on monorails and who declare fanatical loyalty to Dron. I have a bank of monitors. One is maybe watching you now.The "tazer incident" was a very American affair, but you British had your moment when Walter Wolfgang was ejected from a Labour party conference for heckling, and then detained under terrorism laws.The greatest threat, the very greatest threat, is to feedom of speech.
I love your wonderfully ironic headline to the post, lil.
Frankly Daisy, I wouldn't mind having my own tazer. Although where I live is not scary, yet.(Except on a Friday and Saturday night, and then only if you go to the pub)I don't know how you do what you do. Perhaps it's not the kind of thing you can on keep doing and retain faith in humanity?
Pip and LJContact Point is part of the Every Child Matters project. They have been setting it up since 2004 but it used to be called the Information Sharing Index. I just hope My Girl has missed being put onto it.
Of course Feminists are generally beautiful, Sometimes Saintly :-)
There are no feminists in our government Scrobs, otherwise we would not be at war and sucking up to the Saudis.
Some people around here think Germaine is hot Merms :-? I think she is irritating and far too much like my Mother to be considered sexy by me.
You are quite right of course Mr Dron. How do you plan to do for our freedom of speech...are you behind all this "thou shalt not offend thy neighbour with your funny play" stuff?You must have a lot of monitors. I quite like the idea of you watching me ;-0
to be honest lilith...it gives me faith...if i can go into a home...be honest with a family and let them know why things are a concern, what it is doing to tear apart their children, and get them to understand the cycle of abuse and change...that gives me faith...abuse happens every day...being able to change that in some small way makes a difference for me...
Thanks for the info Lil, sadly I doubt my children have missed it. Daisy, whilst I agree with you and admire your work I realise that in this country far more weight is put on opinion and agenda than truth or good sense. What I mean is that the opinion of those in authority is paramount and cannot be argued against, closed courts, and that is wrong - where is habeus corpus? Then you have the opinion against mothers and for fathers rights, often completely against the interests of the child - the mad mad belief that children neeeed a father. They don't, expecially when he's abusive, they don't need anyone abusing them, whoever they may be, parent, teacher, or preist. Then you have the child psychologists, that strange bunch. You know, the ones that happily medicate young boys with Ritalin for being.... boys. Then you have the doctors who have a duty of care and are only too happy to rip a child from their parents in order to be seen to be doing their duty, for in State care it's no longer their problem. This group includes Prof. Meadows who knew a mother was guilty of murdering a child by watching her on TV. He was later struck off the medical register. Many are not. And today in The Indy you have front page news that UK children are among the unhappist in the western world, no THE unhappiest in the western world. Because of the lack of social cohesion in the UK apparently. Nothing to do with mothers not being taught to cook as girls, not being properly educated or fed, not being given an example to follow - oh sorry they had that after the end of manufacturing. And I see Blunkett gave government guidelines for 4-5yr olds to have 20 mins homework per night. In Germany I don't think children go to school at all untill age 7. The governments answer will no doubt be to accuse women. It's their fault for not parenting well, not being married, not staying married, not being employed (?) and not having enough State nursery places so that married women can give birth like factory chickens, put their children in State nurseries to be State controlled untill aged 21 while they work in State call centres and maintain their State marriages, to poor feckless men who have had this sexual freedom without guilt thrust upon them - they fought against it in their wisdom but no, women rule.Only women don't rule and never have. To be stupid and ill-educated is not their fault. To have support would be great as there are many many women of all standards of health and education who would benefit and embrace change for the better, but support isn't here Daisy, only judgement.
You are right - she is very cute. She can dominate me any time she likes *woof woof*!!
Daisy, working closely with people and helping them to be the best parents they can be has to have it's rewards ie. happier children. It amazes me how clueless people can be as to the damage they are doing. But it must also play havoc with your heart. Pip, the Chinese say "treat the mother to treat the child".Children do need fathers Pip. They can of course do fine without too. They don't need abusive, absent or wayward fathers. But I am amazed at how many women think that any man will do to play that role. Some of them are not capable, that is for sure. But what the Family Courts get up to is secret, and punitive to good fathers at the expense of their children. There are some mad mothers out there, using men as sperm banks. The most famous examples I can think of are Geri Halliwell and Oh I forget her name...
She doesn't look like she would want to dominate you Mutley, but rather snuggle you up on her rather gorgeous lap and tickle you under your chin...
Lilith, I am talking about language and the political use of language, what Walter Cronkite, in ascribing Orwellian "Newspeak" to the reductio absurdam of political rhetoric, as"every use of the language to manipulate, deceive, to cover harsh realities with the soft snow of euphemism"Consider the following assertion:Affirmative Action / Racial Discrimination - Both mean "preferential treatment for a particular race". However, the first is mandated by law (in the US) and the second in illegal.If that is not to your taste, how about "collateral damage"? It is used by American generals to describe the (unintended) death and destruction of non military persons and property.Orwell writes,But the special function of certain Newspeak words, of which oldthink was one, was not so much to express meanings as to destroy them.Are there parallels here with Political Correctness?Freedom of speech depends upon every persons ability to name the world he inhabits (Paulo Friere)There are words that have been withdrawn from public use. I will not mention them here as I do not want to offend, but you know what they are. They are proscribed. By who? Who gave consent for the word "Gay" to be the sole property of homosexuals? Who decided, for example, the the word "Gay" was offensive, if used in adolescent argot to describe something as "rubbish"Why is "multiculturalism" now considered to be a failure, even by those most likely to benefit from such a term? Listen to the word. It is a synthesis of "multi" "culture" and "ism" Not only a Newspeak word as defined by Orwell, not only the "soft snow of euphemism" as cited by Cronkite, but I offer this: the word is an existentialist paradox, devoid of meaning in itself. Its true meaning resides not in the ideas it purports to convey, but in those it has suppressed and proscribed.Freedom of speech, as I see it, is not an issue of gagging detractors (although it still is that)but an issue of the way language is being ringfenced to make it impossible to oppose certain groups without being considered heretical.
I could roll on my back and let her tickle my tummy...
This Dron chappie is right. And Brown is a wonderful and awful example of Newspeak. So - when he talks of "Liberty" you know he means "denying Liberty". Indeed, Bliar was a smoother Newspeaker than Brown, but Brown frightens me much more. Bliar's delight was to prance on the world stage, thinking himself to be the Mick Jagger of world politics. Brown for me is far more sinister -witness the flood of legislation going through tailored to make us all cogs of the State.I do hope someont takes the cunt out.
Elby I agree, I like this Dron chappie. But considering language I can't help wondering why 'cunt' is used to describe something so repellent? Lil I disagree, children don't need fathers but they do need mothers. They can benefit from a good father and be harmed by a bad one. I agree that not every man is a good father or father figure and the mistake many women make is not to think that any man will do as a father, but that any man will do.Treat the mother treat the child? yeah.. The State teaches young children how to have sex but does not teach them how to cook a meal. Many children don't know how to read and write, know basic manners and hygiene. Charities, and after-school clubs are choked with legislation and red tape. And then you have the ghettos. I asked my urban group what important item they should take with them on an orienteering trip to the welsh hills, the answer I got was 'a weapon'. Many friends had forced marriages and were habitually beaten in them. 'Treating' the mother in such circumstances would mean removing her from everything she had ever known and then she would be hunted down by her brothers and murdered. Multiculturalism means the coexistence of antagonistic cultures, and this invariably leads to friction.Pip
Dron appreciates compliments.Here is something I wrote on my blog in reply to a Lilith contribution.Well Lilith, if you keep people in a state of war - class war, ideological war, jihad, call it what you will - any kind of conflict, you can deflect them from proper intellectual scrutiny, to a point. This is a theme throroughly explored in Orwell's "1984", which is practically a text book for those interested in World Domination, as I am.In the same speech that carries your quote, Mr Brown says:"a new politics that places power and the opportunity to change things in the hands of people themselves"I think, in the case of a referendum on the EU treaty, we must again say that Mr Brown has not only contradicted himself, he has demonstrated he is a simulacrum in the true Baudrillardian sense.He cannot reconcile the two positions, but he no longer needs to. He has ceased to accept that there is a platform of logic for what he says and does. He merely resorts to random signs that are in arbitrary relation to other signs, which may in themselves be subverted copies of other signs.Reading the speech, I find that it is to quote Macbeth"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor playerThat struts and frets his hour upon the stageAnd then is heard no more: it is a taleTold by an idiot, full of sound and fury,Signifying nothing"It is impossible to conduct an anatomy of the semiotics of Gordon Brown in this tiny reply box, but sometime in the future, when I am not tied up with Bilderbergers and getting planning permissions for Starbucks and controlling weather fronts, I may try.
Anon - re "cunt" my darling Lilith, feminista and erstwhile Greenham Woman, assures me that to use "cunt" as a derogatory term is just fine. Indeed, it has such a use as far back as Old English. My line is that when I use "cunt" in such a context, what I really mean is "utter fucking cunt" ;->>Hope that reassures you!
Thanks Elby, I never thought otherwise but appreciated the reassurance. I've always wondered how that term came about..I'm not having a good day today and will sod off, hugs to Lilith (I'm quite captivated by the Evil of Dron).Pip xx
Chaffey Maycumber.You have not fooled me either. We both know the truth. Be gone! Back to your strange world of corpulent blimps and crepuscular colonels, Sir Aubrey.
philipa...with all due respect and i truly mean that...i must comment...the closed court rooms are not for the secrecy of the proceedings because they are injust...they are for the protection of the privacy of the children...the parents are not found guilty or innocent in the court proceedings and not held criminally liable in any sense...additionally their records are sealed and not on their permanent record when the case closes...there is no way to locate them and they cannot be unsealed for any reason...this is to protect all parties...The court does put the emphasis on their opinion i will agree...however it is the worker with the family who can change that opinion and bring the information to light...the parents are protected by an attorney as well as the children...this affords more than one opinion and while there is a lot of "working" to be done with the court personnel...it can be done...and is done on a regular basis...we all know how to play it so the court hears what we are saying...i have testified so much in court that there are a few lawyers who are hesitant to put me on the stand because i know the way in which to get what i want them to hear out before fully answering their question...that is part of being a social worker...not just working with a family but working within the system the family is involved...for the past ten years it has been female judges who do the ruling in juvenile court in my county, it is switching however i have found some of the male judges to be very impressive in their decision making and often they will ask direct questions of the worker as they are the ones who are out with the families, not the attorneys...this is a change and is having a huge impact on the changes in our court system. while i agree the father thing was an issues for a good many years it is not anymore...one big change is we are mandated to find the fathers...so the court can hold them responsible as well...and see if they want to be a part of the child's life or if they are a viable parent full stop...there have been several cases i have had where the mother was a waste of space and the father came and was able to take the children and has raised them by himself...i am not opposed to that...nor am i opposed to a mother raising the children on her own...or a couple doing it together be it gay or straight...change only happens when you stand up and make a change...i do try to do that on a daily basis...doesn't always happen but i have enough faith still in humanity that their is hope...
Pip, I think the Chinese saying has some merit. Children need as many adults who love respect and admire them deeply as they can get their hearts on. Mothers, obviously, Fathers, certainly. Aunts, Uncles, Teachers, family friends. The state can't offer them that. I have a friend who has just spent £70k trying to retain access to and custody of his son. It has taken three years. Although the mother was allowed to move to the other side of the country with the boy, my friend is at last allowed to take his boy on holiday with him. Best interests of the child? Well, in theory. How many men have £70k to defend their love for their children?
Dron, when I heard Brown's speech to the Labour Party Conference I was amazed. Absolutely no content whatsoever. And yet all the media were saying what a fine speech it was! As you point out there are no end of examples of this newspeak, "collateral damage" being particularly cute. Smoke and mirrors.But stroke Modo? Chance would be a fine thing.
Isn't it absurd to talk of the privacy of the children Daisy, when we are going to have a data base giving them away to professional paedophiles? I think if the courts were open then Mum would have to take a lot more care not to lie about Dad and vice versa. Not every marriage break up has someone so fair minded and skilled as yourself Daisy, involved at the Family Court. Or indeed any outside supportive party whatsoever. The Family Courts seem to me presuppose that the interests of the Mother are equivalent to those of the child, (in my very limited experience.) Whilst this can be true, it is not always.
I haven't been able to go within a mile of docks since, my little Chaffey! Glad the feeling returned elsewhere :-)
lilith...i do owe an apology...you are talking family court which is divorce, custody etc...i was speaking of juvenile court which deals with child abuse and neglect in families...i do apology to all...just got me going because the work is so hard and i am not doing it for the money...but because it is who i am...
Lilith I am sure we are in agreement.Daisy, thanks for your considerate responses but must point out that the UK is not the USA. Here, much damage has been done to innocent children, and parents, by closed internal judgements. I agree with Lilith that not all child protection workers are like we believe you to be, Daisy - Victoria Climbie was under the protection of Social Services, and died. I also agree with you that 'experts' can very well pursuade the courts, any courts, open or closed, as Prof. Roy Meadow has shown us.
See you've been 'Encountered' by Chaffers!All in a day's work I suppose, but it does make one wonder how many names one can juggle without losing touch with reality...D X
Quite so Doris :-)
Dear Madam,Would you kindly help me with my enquiries?I am researching a brief history of the County of Hampshire and wish to find out more about the village of Scotton Pinkney, of which I believe you may have some information.As you may be aware, the village simply disappeared one day and all attempts to trace former villagers has drawn a blank. I did however, manage to meet Grafiene Stacy Graplecard, the widow of Fruning Graplecard,(http://fruninggraplecard.blogspot.com/) but she has sadly fallen on hard times and was mostly incoherent and lascivious. Accordingly, I made my excuses and left.I am aware that a scandal precipitated the vanishment of Scotton, possibly involving the de Tocquaine family, but information is scarce. Enquiries to Scotland Yard have been met, merely, with a terse note that the events at Number 9, The Ovaries, Scotton Pinkney, are subject to the official secrets act.Should you be able to help, I shall be most grateful, and of course will reciprocate in the usual way.Yours sincerely,Donald Sweem
Ah, Feminists - doncha just lov'em?Some years ago whilst on a regular peregrination to the back of beyond I was (to my surprise and for some unknown reason!) invited to a cocktail party at the home of the local British ambassador. During the evening, I was chatting idly with one of the young diplomats in attendance when a women came up to us. My interlocuter introduced us saying, "Mr Nomad this is Mrs X, the ambassador's wife." But before I could respond Mrs X stuck out her hand and, completely ignoring the young man, said, "Ms ABC, how are you?" From her accent it was clear she was American. My instant reaction was one of shock (which I hope I managed to disguise sufficently!) at her rudeness, especially to the young fellow who was clearly very embarrassed at her behaviour. Any normal person would have merely smiled and said something like "Hallo, pleased to meet you, but if you don't mind I prefer to be called Ms ABC." Snubbing a junior member of staff like in public that could not have been conducive to his morale and I admit I felt quite sorry for him.It seems to me that she (or maybe her husband at one of the internal office meetings) should also have had the courtesy to inform the staff beforehand of her preferred mode of address which would have avoided any awkwardness for all concerned. That I still recall details of that event shows just what an (awful) impression that woman made on me.
Once, many years ago... I had the task of escorting the head, (and his wife), of the British Council in Vienna around an exhibition of art, and sculpture.One of the artists involved in the exhibition was a young woman from Hackney, who was greatly preoccupied with the place, perception, and all that goes with it, of women. To this end she had produced several large, and colourful canvasses depicting her vagina in various states...The aforementioned wife of the head of the British Council, (rather thin with bright red lip stick, dressed in a tightly tailored Channel suit) asked what she was looking at...Yours truly, (not known for shyness) could only point at the labels beneath each piece: -Cunt I-V
... and did I see the name SP? What a warm glow (especially from no. 9 The Ovaries).
I had to stop at about one minute. That noodle neck interviewer made we want to throw the laptop across the room.
BB. Colbert is a satirical fiction. In reality, Colbert is a card carrying democrat comedian who speciailises in taking the piss out of the American right.
Nomad, given that she actually was this man's wife you would have thought that she could cope with being addressed as such, especially in relation to her husband's work. I have always been a "Ms", or at least since 18 years old, and I would never change my surname, but I have been called Mrs (various) all my life. I never correct people. It only confuses them. (And embarrasses them!)
Lucien Darling! You survived London? or are you messaging from an internet cafe in Streatham? Yes, I miss Scotton Pinkney too. Mr Thornby aka Sween I suspect works for Interpol so I am saying nothing.
Bill, it is well worth watching his (Colbert's) address to the White House Correspondents Dinner. It is quite long, but worth it to see the discomfort of the audience.
Thank you Auguste. I couldn't have put it better myself.
Lucien, well done for having the presence of mind to point at the title. I always rather liked Judy Chicago's oeuvre.
Dear Mr Thornby (Granners to your chums from The Mounted 5th eh)?I'm interested to see that you are now PPS to Donald. He was of course a relative of a big wheel in the 'Fete Accompli' revue of 1950, when we held a vigil outside Scotton Pinkney Post Office to complain about the smell of envelopes.That name you mention, Grafas Fruning Graplecard, is etched on all our minds, and my lady wife, Miranda, still has nightmares, when we recall the saga of the unfortunate cat. (The surface area of said cat was a critical requirement to it's intended auction).You won't get anything out of Scotland Yard; Felicity did all that years ago, and the evidence has been lost in a maelstrom of incompetent administration, which is part and parcel of the present government.No 9, The Ovaries changed hands several times (as did William when he met Stacy the Grafienne...), but the foundations still exist if you get down on your hands and knees, (as Felicity did; many times...)!Many of us moved to The Estate, and that nice Mr Dron has just left, leaving a small envelope and a few bottles of a rather nice port.The lady who will tell you absolutely everything is of course Miss Binstock. Such a lovely lady...Please ask 'Chaffers' to call by when you next see him?Doris sends her love - as she's done for many, many years now...Mannerings
Dear Mannerings, (You are not related to "Banana Bum" Webley-Bullock of the Buffs are you?Thank you for your kind reply. I would ask more questions but an urgent matter has rendered this somewhat irrelevant. I refer to the correspondence on you website, and the attemps of a certain "Evil of Dron" to entice the lady, Miranda, to his lair in Togo.I shall understand if at this stage you will be busy and unable to assist my enquiries, thought I am told Miss Binstock will oblige for a small consideration.Yours etc.Donald SweenppGT
*Tuscan falls in love*Sigh. A Monica Lewinsky des nos jours. And without the cellulite.
It's a very long time since I did anything for a small consideration Mr Thornby but I will tell you that Nick Drew was the last occupant of 9 The OvariesBuzzzxxx
Dear BuntyYou don't know me but I have ambitions to make a name for myself, beyond Frome and perhaps beyond Somerset!Something tells me we could rule the earth together. My world is already spinning round like a record.I am writing love poetry. This is for you..Your skin glows like the banana, blossoms fragrant as the lily in the purest hope of spring.My heart follows your luten voice and leaps like a fish at the whisper of your name.The evening floats in on a great budgie wing.I am comforted by your shirt that I carry into the twilight of frockbeams and hold next to my heart.I am filled with hope that I may dry your tears of wine.As my ear falls from my sock, it reminds me of your spade.In the quiet, I listen for the last sigh of the day.My heated willie leaps to my shirt. I wait in the moonlight for your secret table so that we may tremble as one, willie to willie, in search of the magnificient mauve and mystical shrub of love.
Mr Sween: Glowing bananas? In Somerset? Since when have the EU permitted radioactive fruit in the west of England? En passant, I thought the only things that "glowed" (apart from a certain species of worm) were ladies who found the temperature in the room a little too high for their comfort. Silly old fashioned me!
Oh Donald! I am undone! You are are my lyrical lover...
Mr Grandad, Mr Sween is clearly artistically licensed...
Lilith: With all due respect, I submit that Mr Sween is rather more "off licenced" than what you said! However, philistine that I am, what do I know?And if Bunty is undone, may I suggest the use of larger buttons?
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