Thursday, 9 August 2007

New Rights for Cohabiting Couples.

At the moment I own the house I live in. If I should predecease Boyfriend he gets housed until he doesn't need housing any more (Trust). I don't have anything else to bequeath. He gave his house to his wife when he left her and later, when he moved in with me, he brought with him a dowry of a dishwasher, computers, and 2,500 cds of Grateful Dead shows.

If NuLab have their way he would inherit my house. Now, I shall be dead, but this seems a little rough on my girl. Should I kick him out just before the legislation comes into force or should we both write really complicated Wills and hope that they will be enforcable?

I think this proposal of giving rights to cohabitees will result in a lot more single households.

33 comments:

Scroblene said...

Lilith.

I really can't comment; there are so many quandaries you have described here.

It's all about future risk, and if you take some now - like on work, money, house, kids, you will probably get a result.

I'm taking huge risks at the moment, and the pain is there, but controllable. Well, just...

As you know, I'm much older than you, but as a friend, I'd advise going out and forgetting the plaudits of doom on mortgages, loans, cost of living.

I'm doing it, and although Mrs S is understandably wary, we're not dead yet, and when we get there in five years, we'll have what was on the cards.

If it's not then - no don't go there...

You'll be fine Lilith, trust me, I was an estate agent once ;0)

Newmania said...

I agree Lillith there will be a lot of harm that comes from this .

Lucien Modo said...

What happens if you were to marry?

If you marry I would like to be invited... I will not wear underpants

My favorite cake is home made Battenberg.

Lucien Modo said...

... though I do like an upside-
down apple and golden syrup cake.

It's up to you I suppose.

What was the point again? Forgive me I have just been introduced to srumpy..........................

Lucien Modo said...

Scrumpy.

Lucien Modo said...

Fuck me ! Is that the time? Fuck the Pope I'm supposed to be defending someone in court tomorrow morning!

Fuck them they are as guilty as sin.

Lucien Modo said...

Oooh I feel queer.

Lilith said...

Yes, I can really worry too much about it Scroblene...who knows what the future holds. But it is a pain in the arse. I am not married because I don't want and never have wanted, "marriage rights". I could almost make an exception for Boyfriend, so very lovely he is, but if we do it will be a lemon drizzle cake.

Scrumpy is LETHAL Modo...tastes like fruit juice but it has its surprises...Lucky your client is guilty..

Tuscan Tony said...

Grateful Dead - The Monkey and The Engineer is a great singalong in the car, but that's beside the point. The whole idea of the state intruding in freely formed (or not formed at all) contracts is an anathema to me but we'd better get used to it. It is not going to get less so under the picker-in-chief.

Lucien Modo said...

Oooh I feel rough! Didn't quite know where or who I was last night... I became convinced I was a human rights lawyer... it was only on the way to the assizes that I realized that I trade in human misery, and grease. I think it was a mistake to drink that bottle of red with my supper after all that scrumpy. Ah well Mrs. Modo is home again this evening... mu week of exciting batchelor-hood is drawing to a close- as is the fine weather; is it portentous one asks one self?

And I'll have you know that the un-careworn hirsute photograph is a little over six months ago! But it has been a hard six months.

Scroblene said...

Lilith,

I've asked Lucien, but do you mean Knickers or Snickers?

He is feeling better I think, but you may have left out the last glass of red, and may be feeling even better...

Just want to make sure you're alright!

Mermaid of Moorgate said...

Wills are good - but you can under the SIPP regulation put a lot more of your personal assets into a pension - such as more alternative investments ie art etc.

Under pension law, co-habitants have a great deal of protection so the more you put into a joint pension, the more tax-efficient protection you will have, nulab or no nulab.

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electro-kevin said...

In its determination to support alternative lifestyles Nu Lab cocks up again. Bang goes more green belt.

I agree with your post BTW and it doesn't seem fair.

What should happen was already in place - cohabitees could make necessary legal arrangements in order to ensure rights, now the rights will be automatic (correct me if wrong).

Is marriage such an evil that it needs to be written out of everything in all but name ?

I posit that marriage is a very good thing (Mrs E-K thinks so too, it was her that suggested it)and is good for society.

Everything Nu Lab touches turns to cack - except state pensions of course.

Lilith said...

Tuscan. A fine song. Boyfriend salutes you as do I.

Lilith said...

Lucien, you are hot, and deluded, and your wife is home, so BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC. I REPEAT, BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC....

Hope your meninges are uninflamed...That Scrumpy is for the accustomed only.

Lilith said...

Scrobs, I am fine. I appreciate and value your concern. Please keep an eye on me and report it to Interpol if I disappear without trace..and don't buy any hand made specialist soap without proper sourcing..

Lilith said...

Pension MM? Pension? Whazzat? I thought they were something that only MPs and public servants had these days? My problem is I glaze over and my heart starts beating really fast when I hear the word "pension" so I am a bit stuck.

Lilith said...

E-K I too think marriage is a good thing. However, I also know myself and I know it would not be good for me. My parents had a strange marriage and I didnt like either of them until they separated and I was able to get to know them. My mother advised me never to marry when I was 13 and heretofore I have always agreed that that was a good start. Partly because I am hopelessly romantic and think people should be together because they want to be not because they are tied by law and property and social pressure. Partly because it is a relatively modern way of organising men and women into isolated nuclei which is a hard and inadequate way to bring up children compared to supportive communities and extended families. Partly because I have been a Ms since I was 18 and old habits die hard.

But I totally respect people who marry. I have just never had that kind of certainty about my relationship with anyone(before now?)

Newmania said...

I`ve been married twice Lilith . I do not think it is possible for everyone to be happy all the time nor is really desirable ,being married keep you together in the bad patches ....well sometimes

Stop tearing the fabric of society apart with your wild ways woman.What you clearly lack in your life is the firm smack of discipline !

electro-kevin said...

I love my wife, and she is stunningly beautiful ...

... but hell, do I miss romance !

THAT's the problem with marriage.

Prodicus said...

E-K: Everything Nu Lab touches turns to cack - except state pensions of course.

You mean state pensions for state employees.

At the TPA:

"The figure is truly terrifying: not millions, not billions, but more than a trillion. Yes, that's £1 followed by 12 noughts. That's how much taxpayers will have to find over the coming years to finance the gold-plated pensions guaranteed to Britain's 5.8 million public sector workers. It's a time-bomb ticking under the nation's economy."

Lilith said...

Newmania

"I`ve been married twice Lilith . I do not think it is possible for everyone to be happy all the time nor is really desirable ,being married keep you together in the bad patches ....well sometimes"

You seem happy now Newmania. I think I fear divorce only slightly more than I fear marriage.

"Stop tearing the fabric of society apart with your wild ways woman.What you clearly lack in your life is the firm smack of discipline !"

I love it when I'm spotted!

Lilith said...

Its not marriage that kills romance E-K, its having kids and a mortgage and a stressful job and a complex and high maintenance extended family. Romance takes time and focus and those are the first things to go when life gets busy with other urgent priorities. Your monthly meal is a sweet and vital ritual. But if you were dating your lovely wife over again, would it be enough, one date a month? Romance has to be fitted into the head, heart and schedule and it isn't easy.

Lilith said...

Quite so prodicus. Good link, thanks.

electro-kevin said...

I agree with all that, Lilith, but it's the thrill of the chase too - and newness. Have you ever wondered why so many beautiful spouses so often get dumped for tronkers ?

Tuscan Tony said...

The Mermaid seems well up to speed on SIPPs - does this fishy being work for Wolanski & Partners/Alliance Trust of Finsbury Pavement perchance?

Lilith said...

I think the thrill of the chase, that's ok. Its the kill that's unnecessary/excessive.

electro-kevin said...

... and sooo messy too.

Newmania said...

I think the thrill of the chase, that's ok. Its the kill that's unnecessary/excessive.


Oh yes and then what do you do sit looking at eachother. I used to love all that fumbling at Parties and in taxis and things . It doesn`t get better than that

Lilith said...

I dunno Newmania. I think we expect a lot of marriage. Boyfriend and I still make people want to puke, so giggly and starry eyed and incapable of making a cup of tea without snogging are we. And its 3 years. Some marriages dont last that long.

Anonymous said...

you'd have married me

Lilith said...

Anon, how can you be so sure?